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title: "UFOs and Strategic Security with Joshua Pierson"
url: "https://reedsummers.com/ep-14-ufos-and-strategic-security"
description: "Highlights from the interview: 02:02:26: First-response planning based on real-world UAP encounters 02:08:37: The “response before…"
published: "2025-04-21T03:47:52.000Z"
updated: "2026-09-11T20:05:57.484Z"
type: "podcasts"
---

# UFOs and Strategic Security with Joshua Pierson

Highlights from the interview: 02:02:26: First-response planning based on real-world UAP encounters 02:08:37: The “response before…

[Video: UFOs and Strategic Security with Joshua Pierson | Emergent Episode 14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ38hlv9eZA)

#### Highlights from the interview:

[02:02:26](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ38hlv9eZA&t=7346s): **First-response planning based on real-world UAP encounters**

[02:08:37](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ38hlv9eZA&t=7717s): **The “response before understanding” dilemma & Havana Syndrome analogy**

[02:14:14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ38hlv9eZA&t=8054s): **Debunking the “threat narrative” critique**

[02:20:12](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ38hlv9eZA&t=8412s): **Who benefits from ambiguity?**

[02:30:45](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ38hlv9eZA&t=9045s): **How to decode non-human intent**

[02:38:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ38hlv9eZA&t=9495s): **Overlaying UAP data with geopolitical timelines**

[02:40:23](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ38hlv9eZA&t=9623s): **The philosophy, theory, and practice of UAP research**

[02:44:12](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ38hlv9eZA&t=9852s): **Citizen science and intelligence fusion**

[02:47:15](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ38hlv9eZA&t=10035s): **Strategic humility: reevaluating your conclusions**  
  
[02:52:14](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ38hlv9eZA&t=10334s): **Closing call to responsibility and human cause**

EMERGENT Episode 14 features Joshua Pierson, DSS, a strategic security subject matter expert and an Active-Duty US Army Soldier with 24 years in the field.  
  
Joshua has played a major role in educating his superiors and counterparts on the importance of technology protection and insider threats, illuminating adversarial capability and intent to target US and Allied Interests at home and abroad.  
  
Through his commitment to this role, he has helped increase the understanding of senior National Security and Intelligence Professionals regarding methodologies and models to counter adversarial interest in areas and venues of extreme sensitivity.

He has a Bachelor of Arts in Intelligence Studies from American Military University, a Master of Science in Strategic Security and Protection Management from Henley-Putnam University, and a Doctorate in Strategic Security from National American University.

Josh is the National Security Advisor to the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies and the Society for UAP Studies.  
  
LINKS:  
Presentation at the 2024 SCU Conference: [Detectable Signatures of Unidentified Aerospace Phenomena](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwD1GPjfwlw&t=6358s)

Doctoral Dissertation, “Detectable Signatures of UAP; Building an Intelligence Picture of Capabilities through Structured Analytic Techniques”: [https://zenodo.org/records/10982656](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbUpoRF9hckswaHVlQ1QyQVRfUlRKZ0xFSmw0Z3xBQ3Jtc0ttbTRSUFdYT29uSFVndWJBZERyTzc5ZXc4bGNUUDYyY0Qta29CZFZEWDdjOUw5ZlVOX2pvS1ZYY2cweHh3Q0dBQ3E4ZXJTQUtId1hJcG9ycWM1Nzd4bnNFcVg1U3dXekZWUmlRRldEdG9oMzV4aHBCQQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fzenodo.org%2Frecords%2F10982656&v=SQ38hlv9eZA)

SCU Presentation Slides: [https://zenodo.org/records/11428299](https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbEpnNlBMX0NOeUhIc2prQUJVMkhNakc3WEdRQXxBQ3Jtc0tsYnFFOEF1ci1WNzFWVGFOQWRQSkdQR2hWYzVIdFJCQktSUjJNMTBKVUx6Y0FTclpQeVdCVE9aZUo1YXl2ZS1lbWpIeU93ZWxhVXdHQXFSUWUweGJDV3FLdDc1QkwzS1FLWVlEbmQzV0hyN3dmbmtjcw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fzenodo.org%2Frecords%2F11428299&v=SQ38hlv9eZA)[#uaps](https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/uaps)[#nationalsecurity](https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/nationalsecurity)[#uapdisclosure](https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/uapdisclosure)